The fabric and quality of these shorts are fantastic; however, I think you need to like running shorts that are short and with built-in underwear in the first place to really get on with these. Even sizing up they're still just a touch too short and too snug for my liking. I bought them for indoor workouts anyway so am still wearing them but wouldn't event attempt wearing them out given how uncomfortable I feel in them. It's entirely a personal preference though. They're a great pair of shorts with the good size pockets and lovely feel to them. I wouldn't not recommend them but only if you like these type of running shorts.